Timmahh
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well, i have wanted to do a tuber build for a while now. I was, and am still thinking on building one myself. but for the time being, I found a nice deal on a Moon Buggy tuber that should be here anyday. I will be doing quite a bit to it to get it complete as I envision. I expect the tuber anyday now, and most the ordered parts will be here tomorrow or friday, so i can put it together saturday and run it sunday, with any luck.
So I figured I would start a thread to share the progress as it goes together, and get some setup tips help, and maybe learn a few things, and help a few others along the way.
I dont do any comping, atleast not yet, so this is going to be more of a fun/scale type build, but i do want it to crawl well and be competative as hell, so performance will be key.
any help, tips, info, conversation you wish to share is dandy.
heres a list of the build items and some pics of the items going in.
CHASSIS
Custom built Moon Buggy Chassis from Crawler374 over on scale 4x4rc. Looks like he has done a nice job on it, will see when it arrives, lol. He said it has shock mounting tabs on it now for the front, though they were not on in the pics. I was hopeing to see it delivered yesterday or today. hopefully its here tomorrow? Bought it with a IH Scout body/tube frame he was selling a few weeks back. the scout will be its own thread. couple pics of the MB Chassis.
Suspension
will be going with Axial or Axial compatable items for the majority of the build. Links will be 4 linked and Dual Triangulated using the EEM Dual Trianulation Skid Plate (on the way) and a couple DYI 4 link plates.
new Axial shocks assembly with aluminum shock bodys and red springs. will need to buy some white, yellow, and pink springs for some adjustment, or should i go Droop setup maybe, and use internal springs, and what srpings if i go this route? suggestions??????? ( shocks on hand, need to order aluminum shock caps and springs though)
Axial complete Link upgrade kit in Red. (on the way) (always thought Black and Red or Black and Orange go well together. went with Red on this build as the Scout is Orange so...)
DriveTrain -
Tranmission
Stock Axial Transmission with original VF Dig/Hitech 225 (have and assembled)
1 TTR modified MIP C-Drive Spline set for AX10 with Dig (on the way).
Axles
Stock Axial housings, ring/pinion gears and diff cups on F/R
Front Axle: Axial Knuckles, (on the way) Axial Cs (on the way), Axial CVDs (on the way) and Axial Iron Cross Locker (on hand). Cs will be modified for turning clearince by counter sinking the mounting hole and using countersunk flathead screws, which will allow for more turning radius/clearance. Should they be in the way once I setup clocked, which depend on if I need the axle angle. Knuckles will be run on opposite sides, so I can do the DYI BTA steering assembly. Similar to how my Wrangler scaler is setup (which will also be getting a full redo).
Rear axle: Axial Lockouts (on the way), Axial axle shafts for the lockouts (on the way), and Axial Iron Cross locker for diff (on hand).
3racing Red Hexs (need to order but which,. REALLY leaning towards the rotors for the scale look.
if i see problems with the stock ring/pinion in the axles, i ll likly install the 3Racing beveled ring/pinions. for those that havnt seen these. they look like there is a bit of a spiral cut on them, almost wormish, but it may just be the pic. if they did get a bit of a spiral to them, atleast it ll give a better option for those of us running axial axles.
Spare Parts to have on hand
some new ends and such for the new Red Links
1 AX10 Scorpion RTR Hardware Upgrade Kit (on the way)
1 Flanged Ball 3x5.8x7mm (cuz one can never have enough spare balls) (on the way)
Setup ideas/questions
Shock and lower link mounting locations on the axle is where I'm currently up in the air atm. Should I mount to the stock locations, or should I mount the shocks on top of the axle to gain link clearnace, or maybe on the inside of the stock mount location??? Mount the links in stock location or to the outside?
will have to look at this once I get the rest of the parts here. Also if i droop, then what other clearance issues may i have with the links, or even the BTA Steering.
the one thing I'm finding alot when reading thru the site is alot of link/shock mount binding. I want to avoid this from the start, and fwiw, my plan is to mount the bent links in the rear and straight links in the front. atm, I'm seeing some driveshaft riding going on with bent links up front on the ax 10 as it is in semi stock form with the MIPs.
For more scale appearances, i have a slew of ideas i ll be incorporating including, OLD SKOOL fuel tank, Dash with gauges and Scale Moving steering wheel, seat and driver, lights, and some other ideas i may bust out.
well thats about the jist of it. hope you enjoy following along as much as i enjoy putting it together and trying it out.
as far as what i ll be doing for Rims/Tires, atm i ll be running a set of 8shooters with claws weighted 5 1/4 each front and 3 3/4 each rear. I'm still not sure if I'm going to run 1.9s or 2.2s yet either. 1.9s may look really good on it once its built. ideas? rock stompers or maybe something similar in a super narrow????/
one of the reasons I'm really hopeing the tuber and stuff shows up this week, is sunday, i need to have it together to run a new proto weighted rim to see how it functions. so i need to get it built by saturday, so i can have abit of tweek time before i test the new wheels.
Thanx for looking
So I figured I would start a thread to share the progress as it goes together, and get some setup tips help, and maybe learn a few things, and help a few others along the way.
I dont do any comping, atleast not yet, so this is going to be more of a fun/scale type build, but i do want it to crawl well and be competative as hell, so performance will be key.
any help, tips, info, conversation you wish to share is dandy.
heres a list of the build items and some pics of the items going in.
CHASSIS
Custom built Moon Buggy Chassis from Crawler374 over on scale 4x4rc. Looks like he has done a nice job on it, will see when it arrives, lol. He said it has shock mounting tabs on it now for the front, though they were not on in the pics. I was hopeing to see it delivered yesterday or today. hopefully its here tomorrow? Bought it with a IH Scout body/tube frame he was selling a few weeks back. the scout will be its own thread. couple pics of the MB Chassis.
Suspension
will be going with Axial or Axial compatable items for the majority of the build. Links will be 4 linked and Dual Triangulated using the EEM Dual Trianulation Skid Plate (on the way) and a couple DYI 4 link plates.
new Axial shocks assembly with aluminum shock bodys and red springs. will need to buy some white, yellow, and pink springs for some adjustment, or should i go Droop setup maybe, and use internal springs, and what srpings if i go this route? suggestions??????? ( shocks on hand, need to order aluminum shock caps and springs though)
Axial complete Link upgrade kit in Red. (on the way) (always thought Black and Red or Black and Orange go well together. went with Red on this build as the Scout is Orange so...)
DriveTrain -
Tranmission
Stock Axial Transmission with original VF Dig/Hitech 225 (have and assembled)
1 TTR modified MIP C-Drive Spline set for AX10 with Dig (on the way).
Axles
Stock Axial housings, ring/pinion gears and diff cups on F/R
Front Axle: Axial Knuckles, (on the way) Axial Cs (on the way), Axial CVDs (on the way) and Axial Iron Cross Locker (on hand). Cs will be modified for turning clearince by counter sinking the mounting hole and using countersunk flathead screws, which will allow for more turning radius/clearance. Should they be in the way once I setup clocked, which depend on if I need the axle angle. Knuckles will be run on opposite sides, so I can do the DYI BTA steering assembly. Similar to how my Wrangler scaler is setup (which will also be getting a full redo).
Rear axle: Axial Lockouts (on the way), Axial axle shafts for the lockouts (on the way), and Axial Iron Cross locker for diff (on hand).
3racing Red Hexs (need to order but which,. REALLY leaning towards the rotors for the scale look.
if i see problems with the stock ring/pinion in the axles, i ll likly install the 3Racing beveled ring/pinions. for those that havnt seen these. they look like there is a bit of a spiral cut on them, almost wormish, but it may just be the pic. if they did get a bit of a spiral to them, atleast it ll give a better option for those of us running axial axles.
Spare Parts to have on hand
some new ends and such for the new Red Links
1 AX10 Scorpion RTR Hardware Upgrade Kit (on the way)
1 Flanged Ball 3x5.8x7mm (cuz one can never have enough spare balls) (on the way)
Setup ideas/questions
Shock and lower link mounting locations on the axle is where I'm currently up in the air atm. Should I mount to the stock locations, or should I mount the shocks on top of the axle to gain link clearnace, or maybe on the inside of the stock mount location??? Mount the links in stock location or to the outside?
will have to look at this once I get the rest of the parts here. Also if i droop, then what other clearance issues may i have with the links, or even the BTA Steering.
the one thing I'm finding alot when reading thru the site is alot of link/shock mount binding. I want to avoid this from the start, and fwiw, my plan is to mount the bent links in the rear and straight links in the front. atm, I'm seeing some driveshaft riding going on with bent links up front on the ax 10 as it is in semi stock form with the MIPs.
For more scale appearances, i have a slew of ideas i ll be incorporating including, OLD SKOOL fuel tank, Dash with gauges and Scale Moving steering wheel, seat and driver, lights, and some other ideas i may bust out.
well thats about the jist of it. hope you enjoy following along as much as i enjoy putting it together and trying it out.
as far as what i ll be doing for Rims/Tires, atm i ll be running a set of 8shooters with claws weighted 5 1/4 each front and 3 3/4 each rear. I'm still not sure if I'm going to run 1.9s or 2.2s yet either. 1.9s may look really good on it once its built. ideas? rock stompers or maybe something similar in a super narrow????/
one of the reasons I'm really hopeing the tuber and stuff shows up this week, is sunday, i need to have it together to run a new proto weighted rim to see how it functions. so i need to get it built by saturday, so i can have abit of tweek time before i test the new wheels.
Thanx for looking
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