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Hi,
I'm thinking of getting one of these but not sure which one to get,they both use same ESC and motor and they are same scale and both are well build but which one would you buy?
which one is faster,more durable,funnier etc... which one be better for heavy bashing and nearly every day usage?
tell me what you think of both.
Traxxas E-Revo Brushless Edition
Equipped with Castle Creation's Mamba Monster Brushless System
Up to 25.2 Volts of Massive Brushless Power
Includes New Traxxas TQ 2.4GHz Radio System with 4-Channel Micro Receiver
State-of-the-Art Integrated Chassis Design
Heavy-Duty 17mm Splined Aluminum Hex Hubs and Wheel Nuts
Hard-Anodized Teflon®-Coated Aluminum Shocks
Top Speed: 65+mph All-Out, 50+mph Out of the Box!
Castle Creations Mamba Monster Brushless System
Built specifically to handle the rigors of large, power-hungry trucks, the Mamba Monster speed control is ready for 6S LiPo power with its massive 6.5mm gold-plated connectors, high-efficiency heatsink, integrated cooling fan and heavy-duty components. The speed control sends its power pulses to a Castle 2200Kv 75mm motor, designed specially for maximum performance and reliability with 6S LiPo power in torque-hungry applications. The aluminum motor can is machined to act as a massive heatsink, high-grade bearings deliver maximum efficiency, and high-strength Neodymium magnets give E-Revo brushless edition outrageous torque. To resist the twist, a beefy 5mm shaft transfers power to Brushless-Ready transmission.
Built For Brushless
We built the E-Revo for 6S brushless power right from the start. For other companies, brushless ready means just making some nominal provisions for battery and motor installation and letting the aftermarket develop the upgrades necessary to make it survive. Not Traxxas. We heard the call for more power so E-Revo was tested tough for durability with brutal 6S LiPo power and intense custom wound brushless motors. For the uninitiated, this extreme 65+mph motor and battery combination is ordinarily a predictable recipe for a box full of twisted and mangled parts. Not so with the E-Revo Brushless Edition. E-Revo’s driveline has been engineered to endure the kind of horsepower and punishment that’s possible with today’s motor and battery technology. It looks factory because it is factory, complete with a separate motor plate for clean, low-slung single motor installation.
Traxxas TQ 2.4GHz Transmitter
and 4-channel Micro Receiver
All new for E-Revo Brushless edition is Traxxas TQ 2.4GHz radio system. Traxxas' proven ergonomic TQ design now houses spread-spectrum circuitry, eliminating the need for crystals and channels. Just switch on and drive; the 2.4GHz circuitry automatically locates an open channel for glitch-free operation. The new 4-channel micro receiver has an integrated link button for fast syncing with the transmitter.
Low-CG Chassis Design
Engineered by Traxxas, the ground-breaking molded E-Revo chassis sets a new benchmark for electric monster truck looks and performance. The E-Revo chassis combines art and function to deliver a lightweight, integrated, and rigid platform that maximizes strength and reduces weight. Scalable battery compartments accept a variety of NiMH and LiPo configurations to unlock E-Revo Brushless edition's power potential. By combining the battery compartments with the chassis design, the battery packs can sit low and close to the center of the truck, plus valuable chassis surface is freed up to accommodate the electronics for a clean layout. This keeps the center of gravity (CG) as low as possible and increases side-to-side agility by keeping most of the weight close to the center.
VS
Savage Flux
The all-new Savage Flux HP is guaranteed to wow you and your friends! Powered by the awesome Flux Tork 220 motor and twin battery packs, you will be pulling wheelies at the twitch of a finger, and getting air like nobody's business!
Easy plug-and-go convenience is the hallmark of electric RC trucks, and the Savage Flux HP is no different. Just plug in two matching battery packs and you are off and running! The Flux Blur speedo can handle massive amounts of power, and you can fit in up to 16 NiMH cells or 2 LiPo batteries (either 2S or 3S type).
Want to hit the speed limit with your monster truck? With the Savage Flux HP it's all too easy! With 2 3S LiPo batteries and on-road tyres like our #4729 or #4731 mounted Phaltlines you can hit 62 mph (100kph) in no time!
The Savage Flux HP is equipped with as many tough option parts as we could fit in, just so it can handle the power of the Flux Tork 2200 motor. We've equipped it with an all-metal gear transmission, steel spur gear, super heavy-duty dogbones, machine cut diff gears, 2.5mm TVP chassis plates, 3mm 7075 motor plate and dual 8mm billet motor clamps!
The Savage Flux HP is based on the already awesome Savage X chassis, and features a low-mounted Flux Tork 2200Kv motor in place of the big-block nitro engine, a powerful Flux Blur speedo in place of the fuel tank, and twin battery boxes hanging on the outside to hold a variety of battery types. Power your Savage Flux HP with either NiMH batteries from 6- to 8-cell size, or dual LiPo batteries with 2S 7.4v or a whopping 3S 11.1v power!
Everything else from the Savage X is carried over, including the tough all-metal gear drivetrain, powerful SF-5 metal-gear servo, machine-cut diff gears and legendary Savage suspension parts and shock towers for extreme durability! The lighter weight of the Savage Flux HP allows us to use just a single nylon shock at each corner, in BIG BORE size for excellent control and traction on any surface.
The Savage Flux HP is loaded with new and exciting features, read on to find out more!
The centrepiece of the Savage Flux HP is the Flux system, consisting of the Tork 2200 motor and Blur speedo - both wholly impressive in their own right, but together they form an unstoppable power force!
The Flux Tork 2200 features the coolest motor cases we've ever seen, with massive machined cooling fins that really make it look the part of an all-out power plant! With a 5mm motor shaft it can fit the upcoming optional pinion gears so you can get even MORE top speed for those insane runs, or gear it down a bit for increased acceleration on the track. The Tork 2200 is held down to the 3mm 7075 aluminium motor plate with two 8mm billet machined aluminium clamps so it won't move or shift under the immense amount of torque it can pull.
Controlling the Tork 2200 is the Flux Blur speedo, the most powerful brushless speed controller we could find. With the ability to handle twin 3S LiPo batteries (that's a total of 6S LiPo power!) it can deal with anything the Tork 2200 motor can dish out! 6mm bullet connectors secure the motor wires for loss-free connection to the 12-gauge wires, and to connect to each battery pack we've attached real Dean's connectors for zero power loss and total efficiency. We figured why re-invent the wheel and release our own connector when the best is already available? Topping off the versatility of the Flux Blur speedo (literally) is an integrated cooling fan, which allows the speedo to operate at its ideal temperature.
Finally, you have the ability to easily connect it to your computer for total programming control! With our #100573 USB Programming Kit you can connect the Blur to any Windows-based PC to control all the various facets of its power delivery, braking, throttle curves, battery cut-off and much more. You can also save various profiles to have profiles for racing, insane speed runs, stunts, fun running and more.
With the Flux Tork 2200 and Blur combo, you get all the power you can desire, with custom tuning and multiple battery handling thrown in for fun! You can get your friends saying 'what the Flux?!' as fast as you can pull the trigger! You'll have to experience it to believe it!
Extra-Low CG
The Flux Tork 2200 motor sits extremely low in the chassis, providing as low a centre of gravity (CG) as possible, and the twin battery packs ride on the outside of the TVP chassis members, where the tuned pipe and fuel tank on a nitro-powered Savage would usually rest. The low CG gives you extra control and cornering ability, allowing you to rule the corners on the track and pull off spectacular stunts to impress and wow your friends!
The picture to the right shows the Savage Flux HP chassis with the battery case removed, showing you how low the motor sits in the chassis.
Twin Battery Power
Brushless motors like the Flux Tork 2200 are already super powerful with just one battery compared to their older brushed ancestors, so you can imagine what two battery packs will be able to provide! The Savage Flux HP can take up to 16 NiMH cells (split up with 2 x 6-cell, 2 x 7-cell or 2 x 8-cell battery packs) or 2 LiPo packs of either 2S 7.4v or 3S 11.1v construction. The production battery boxes will feature loads of vents to keep the batteries cool, and we suggest using official Deans zero-loss battery plugs.
Flux Tork 2200 Motor
The Flux Tork 2200 motor is one of the biggest and most powerful brushless motors available, and was selected specifically for its massive power delivery and voltage handling. It can take up to 25 volts of power, delivering hordes of power - plenty of juice to let to you do instant wheelies and standing backflips! The Tork 2200 is held in place with 2 machined 8mm billet aluminium motor clamps secured to the 3mm 7075 alloy motor mount to prevent it moving once the gear mesh is set. Option pinion gears will be available to fine-tune the speed and torque delivery!
Flux Blur ESC
With the capacity to handle up to 6S LiPo power and more NiMH cells than can actually fit in the Savaage Flux HP, the Flux Blur speedo can take anything you can possibly throw at it and keep coming back for more! Fully programmable with our #100573 USB Programming Kit and fitted with fat 6mm bullet connectors, the Blur delivers power to the Tork 2200 motor in massive gulps of voltage while the integrated cooling fan keeps everything at a reasonable operating temperature.
All-Metal Transmission Gears
The Savage Flux HP features all-metal transmission gears to make sure that power delivery is uninterrupted and every jolt of power gets from the motor to the tyres efficiently and with no worry of damage to the gears. The whole drivetrain runs on rubber-sealed ball bearings for optimal efficiency, for extra-long runtimes and mega-fast top speeds! The diffs feature the all-new Machined Super Heavy Duty Bevel Gear Set, with extra-large bearings for extreme durability! These are tougher and stronger than all other available bevel gear sets for the Savage!
XL Tough Suspension
The Savage Flux HP features the uprights designed for the larger tyres and weight of the Savage XL, giving you the assurance that you'll be able to deal out the same abuse that all the other nitro-powered Savage trucks can handle! Beefy parts mean the Savage Flux HP can take plenty of abuse and punishment, giving you plenty of big-air thrills before a parts breakages forces you to take a break.
Machined Super Heavy Duty Diff Gears
Equipped with the new #102246 Machined Super Heavy Duty Bevel Gear Set, you can be sure that the diffs of the Savage Flux HP will last for a long time, taking the punishment of the Flux Tork 2200 motor! The entire drivetrain can be upgraded with all the option parts available to nitro Savage owners, letting you upgrade and bulletproof your truck as desired.
Thick Super Heavy-Duty Dogbones
Extra-thick, super duty dogbones provide the insurance you'll want when you take the Savage Flux HP way off-road and into rough country! The thick diameter, larger ends and sleek black anodizing add up to all the assurance you'll want that the drivetrain won't let you down when the going gets tough! You'll be able to commit the full power of the Tork 2200 motor to the ground without worrying about drivetrain breakages or anything else!
Machined Steel Spur Gear
A machined steel spur gear is the perfect match for the power of the Tork 2200 motor. The pinion gear spins on a 5mm motor shaft and optional pinion gears will be available after the Savage Flux HP is launched. With the all-metal drivetrain running from the motor to transmission, and from the gearbox to the diffs, you get a huge amount of drivetrain protection with gears that won't strip, melt or break! You'll have security and peace of mind that your truck will not only perform superbly, but last as long as possible in the roughest of terrain and conditions!
Big Bore Nylon Shocks
Four huge Big Bore shocks give all the suspension action you need to get out and blast through the roughest of tracks or off-road terrain. With slick nylon bodies they are lightweight and strong, with almost no friction 'stiction' between the shock piston and shock body. The extra-large capacity gives you extra control and damping action so you have the driving feel that makes off-road driving so much fun!
SF-5 High Torque Metal Gear Steering Servo
HPI designers settled on a super-strong, extra-tough high torque metal gear servo. With nearly 9kg of force per centimeter (that's 126psi!), the SF-5 will get the GT-2 tyres turning easily at any speed! There's no need to upgrade the servo for anything else - this baby's got it all! With the bellcrank steering and built-in servo saver, you can be sure that the SF-5 will be fully protected against crash damage or bad landings, too!
Thanks GOD for the COPY and PASTE!
I'm thinking of getting one of these but not sure which one to get,they both use same ESC and motor and they are same scale and both are well build but which one would you buy?
which one is faster,more durable,funnier etc... which one be better for heavy bashing and nearly every day usage?
tell me what you think of both.
Traxxas E-Revo Brushless Edition
Equipped with Castle Creation's Mamba Monster Brushless System
Up to 25.2 Volts of Massive Brushless Power
Includes New Traxxas TQ 2.4GHz Radio System with 4-Channel Micro Receiver
State-of-the-Art Integrated Chassis Design
Heavy-Duty 17mm Splined Aluminum Hex Hubs and Wheel Nuts
Hard-Anodized Teflon®-Coated Aluminum Shocks
Top Speed: 65+mph All-Out, 50+mph Out of the Box!
Castle Creations Mamba Monster Brushless System
Built specifically to handle the rigors of large, power-hungry trucks, the Mamba Monster speed control is ready for 6S LiPo power with its massive 6.5mm gold-plated connectors, high-efficiency heatsink, integrated cooling fan and heavy-duty components. The speed control sends its power pulses to a Castle 2200Kv 75mm motor, designed specially for maximum performance and reliability with 6S LiPo power in torque-hungry applications. The aluminum motor can is machined to act as a massive heatsink, high-grade bearings deliver maximum efficiency, and high-strength Neodymium magnets give E-Revo brushless edition outrageous torque. To resist the twist, a beefy 5mm shaft transfers power to Brushless-Ready transmission.
Built For Brushless
We built the E-Revo for 6S brushless power right from the start. For other companies, brushless ready means just making some nominal provisions for battery and motor installation and letting the aftermarket develop the upgrades necessary to make it survive. Not Traxxas. We heard the call for more power so E-Revo was tested tough for durability with brutal 6S LiPo power and intense custom wound brushless motors. For the uninitiated, this extreme 65+mph motor and battery combination is ordinarily a predictable recipe for a box full of twisted and mangled parts. Not so with the E-Revo Brushless Edition. E-Revo’s driveline has been engineered to endure the kind of horsepower and punishment that’s possible with today’s motor and battery technology. It looks factory because it is factory, complete with a separate motor plate for clean, low-slung single motor installation.
Traxxas TQ 2.4GHz Transmitter
and 4-channel Micro Receiver
All new for E-Revo Brushless edition is Traxxas TQ 2.4GHz radio system. Traxxas' proven ergonomic TQ design now houses spread-spectrum circuitry, eliminating the need for crystals and channels. Just switch on and drive; the 2.4GHz circuitry automatically locates an open channel for glitch-free operation. The new 4-channel micro receiver has an integrated link button for fast syncing with the transmitter.
Low-CG Chassis Design
Engineered by Traxxas, the ground-breaking molded E-Revo chassis sets a new benchmark for electric monster truck looks and performance. The E-Revo chassis combines art and function to deliver a lightweight, integrated, and rigid platform that maximizes strength and reduces weight. Scalable battery compartments accept a variety of NiMH and LiPo configurations to unlock E-Revo Brushless edition's power potential. By combining the battery compartments with the chassis design, the battery packs can sit low and close to the center of the truck, plus valuable chassis surface is freed up to accommodate the electronics for a clean layout. This keeps the center of gravity (CG) as low as possible and increases side-to-side agility by keeping most of the weight close to the center.
VS
Savage Flux
The all-new Savage Flux HP is guaranteed to wow you and your friends! Powered by the awesome Flux Tork 220 motor and twin battery packs, you will be pulling wheelies at the twitch of a finger, and getting air like nobody's business!
Easy plug-and-go convenience is the hallmark of electric RC trucks, and the Savage Flux HP is no different. Just plug in two matching battery packs and you are off and running! The Flux Blur speedo can handle massive amounts of power, and you can fit in up to 16 NiMH cells or 2 LiPo batteries (either 2S or 3S type).
Want to hit the speed limit with your monster truck? With the Savage Flux HP it's all too easy! With 2 3S LiPo batteries and on-road tyres like our #4729 or #4731 mounted Phaltlines you can hit 62 mph (100kph) in no time!
The Savage Flux HP is equipped with as many tough option parts as we could fit in, just so it can handle the power of the Flux Tork 2200 motor. We've equipped it with an all-metal gear transmission, steel spur gear, super heavy-duty dogbones, machine cut diff gears, 2.5mm TVP chassis plates, 3mm 7075 motor plate and dual 8mm billet motor clamps!
The Savage Flux HP is based on the already awesome Savage X chassis, and features a low-mounted Flux Tork 2200Kv motor in place of the big-block nitro engine, a powerful Flux Blur speedo in place of the fuel tank, and twin battery boxes hanging on the outside to hold a variety of battery types. Power your Savage Flux HP with either NiMH batteries from 6- to 8-cell size, or dual LiPo batteries with 2S 7.4v or a whopping 3S 11.1v power!
Everything else from the Savage X is carried over, including the tough all-metal gear drivetrain, powerful SF-5 metal-gear servo, machine-cut diff gears and legendary Savage suspension parts and shock towers for extreme durability! The lighter weight of the Savage Flux HP allows us to use just a single nylon shock at each corner, in BIG BORE size for excellent control and traction on any surface.
The Savage Flux HP is loaded with new and exciting features, read on to find out more!
The centrepiece of the Savage Flux HP is the Flux system, consisting of the Tork 2200 motor and Blur speedo - both wholly impressive in their own right, but together they form an unstoppable power force!
The Flux Tork 2200 features the coolest motor cases we've ever seen, with massive machined cooling fins that really make it look the part of an all-out power plant! With a 5mm motor shaft it can fit the upcoming optional pinion gears so you can get even MORE top speed for those insane runs, or gear it down a bit for increased acceleration on the track. The Tork 2200 is held down to the 3mm 7075 aluminium motor plate with two 8mm billet machined aluminium clamps so it won't move or shift under the immense amount of torque it can pull.
Controlling the Tork 2200 is the Flux Blur speedo, the most powerful brushless speed controller we could find. With the ability to handle twin 3S LiPo batteries (that's a total of 6S LiPo power!) it can deal with anything the Tork 2200 motor can dish out! 6mm bullet connectors secure the motor wires for loss-free connection to the 12-gauge wires, and to connect to each battery pack we've attached real Dean's connectors for zero power loss and total efficiency. We figured why re-invent the wheel and release our own connector when the best is already available? Topping off the versatility of the Flux Blur speedo (literally) is an integrated cooling fan, which allows the speedo to operate at its ideal temperature.
Finally, you have the ability to easily connect it to your computer for total programming control! With our #100573 USB Programming Kit you can connect the Blur to any Windows-based PC to control all the various facets of its power delivery, braking, throttle curves, battery cut-off and much more. You can also save various profiles to have profiles for racing, insane speed runs, stunts, fun running and more.
With the Flux Tork 2200 and Blur combo, you get all the power you can desire, with custom tuning and multiple battery handling thrown in for fun! You can get your friends saying 'what the Flux?!' as fast as you can pull the trigger! You'll have to experience it to believe it!
Extra-Low CG
The Flux Tork 2200 motor sits extremely low in the chassis, providing as low a centre of gravity (CG) as possible, and the twin battery packs ride on the outside of the TVP chassis members, where the tuned pipe and fuel tank on a nitro-powered Savage would usually rest. The low CG gives you extra control and cornering ability, allowing you to rule the corners on the track and pull off spectacular stunts to impress and wow your friends!
The picture to the right shows the Savage Flux HP chassis with the battery case removed, showing you how low the motor sits in the chassis.
Twin Battery Power
Brushless motors like the Flux Tork 2200 are already super powerful with just one battery compared to their older brushed ancestors, so you can imagine what two battery packs will be able to provide! The Savage Flux HP can take up to 16 NiMH cells (split up with 2 x 6-cell, 2 x 7-cell or 2 x 8-cell battery packs) or 2 LiPo packs of either 2S 7.4v or 3S 11.1v construction. The production battery boxes will feature loads of vents to keep the batteries cool, and we suggest using official Deans zero-loss battery plugs.
Flux Tork 2200 Motor
The Flux Tork 2200 motor is one of the biggest and most powerful brushless motors available, and was selected specifically for its massive power delivery and voltage handling. It can take up to 25 volts of power, delivering hordes of power - plenty of juice to let to you do instant wheelies and standing backflips! The Tork 2200 is held in place with 2 machined 8mm billet aluminium motor clamps secured to the 3mm 7075 alloy motor mount to prevent it moving once the gear mesh is set. Option pinion gears will be available to fine-tune the speed and torque delivery!
Flux Blur ESC
With the capacity to handle up to 6S LiPo power and more NiMH cells than can actually fit in the Savaage Flux HP, the Flux Blur speedo can take anything you can possibly throw at it and keep coming back for more! Fully programmable with our #100573 USB Programming Kit and fitted with fat 6mm bullet connectors, the Blur delivers power to the Tork 2200 motor in massive gulps of voltage while the integrated cooling fan keeps everything at a reasonable operating temperature.
All-Metal Transmission Gears
The Savage Flux HP features all-metal transmission gears to make sure that power delivery is uninterrupted and every jolt of power gets from the motor to the tyres efficiently and with no worry of damage to the gears. The whole drivetrain runs on rubber-sealed ball bearings for optimal efficiency, for extra-long runtimes and mega-fast top speeds! The diffs feature the all-new Machined Super Heavy Duty Bevel Gear Set, with extra-large bearings for extreme durability! These are tougher and stronger than all other available bevel gear sets for the Savage!
XL Tough Suspension
The Savage Flux HP features the uprights designed for the larger tyres and weight of the Savage XL, giving you the assurance that you'll be able to deal out the same abuse that all the other nitro-powered Savage trucks can handle! Beefy parts mean the Savage Flux HP can take plenty of abuse and punishment, giving you plenty of big-air thrills before a parts breakages forces you to take a break.
Machined Super Heavy Duty Diff Gears
Equipped with the new #102246 Machined Super Heavy Duty Bevel Gear Set, you can be sure that the diffs of the Savage Flux HP will last for a long time, taking the punishment of the Flux Tork 2200 motor! The entire drivetrain can be upgraded with all the option parts available to nitro Savage owners, letting you upgrade and bulletproof your truck as desired.
Thick Super Heavy-Duty Dogbones
Extra-thick, super duty dogbones provide the insurance you'll want when you take the Savage Flux HP way off-road and into rough country! The thick diameter, larger ends and sleek black anodizing add up to all the assurance you'll want that the drivetrain won't let you down when the going gets tough! You'll be able to commit the full power of the Tork 2200 motor to the ground without worrying about drivetrain breakages or anything else!
Machined Steel Spur Gear
A machined steel spur gear is the perfect match for the power of the Tork 2200 motor. The pinion gear spins on a 5mm motor shaft and optional pinion gears will be available after the Savage Flux HP is launched. With the all-metal drivetrain running from the motor to transmission, and from the gearbox to the diffs, you get a huge amount of drivetrain protection with gears that won't strip, melt or break! You'll have security and peace of mind that your truck will not only perform superbly, but last as long as possible in the roughest of terrain and conditions!
Big Bore Nylon Shocks
Four huge Big Bore shocks give all the suspension action you need to get out and blast through the roughest of tracks or off-road terrain. With slick nylon bodies they are lightweight and strong, with almost no friction 'stiction' between the shock piston and shock body. The extra-large capacity gives you extra control and damping action so you have the driving feel that makes off-road driving so much fun!
SF-5 High Torque Metal Gear Steering Servo
HPI designers settled on a super-strong, extra-tough high torque metal gear servo. With nearly 9kg of force per centimeter (that's 126psi!), the SF-5 will get the GT-2 tyres turning easily at any speed! There's no need to upgrade the servo for anything else - this baby's got it all! With the bellcrank steering and built-in servo saver, you can be sure that the SF-5 will be fully protected against crash damage or bad landings, too!
Thanks GOD for the COPY and PASTE!
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