To preface this, I did not buy any of these as kits, I often buy my Tamiyas used at a decent discount (and because I don't like applying 100+ stickers).
I've owned a ridiculously hopped up TT02B, a Type S, R, Ds, and vanilla models, all used, and all were just a bit...eh?
The S just comes with some spare "higher end" suspension arms that Tamiya had sitting around. It's an absolute kludge of spacers and bits, not that the arms matter when the stock steering is as notoriously poor as it is. If the steering wasn't a joke, it would have been a decent handler.
The basic TT02...I don't like. I like that it goes together easily, but the upper suspension arms are a bad design, and the stock steering is truly as bad as people say it is. I have cat toys that track straighter than a stock TT02.
The most ridiculous part of hopping up a TT02 (costs aside) is that the kit screws are self-tapping, but most of the hop-ups use machine screws. A key example are the oil filled shocks which come with ball connectors (btw I love popping shocks on and off and wearing out the eyelets), if you installed the friction shocks, you now have deep threaded holes where your ball connectors are meant to go.
My experience trying to "rally" a TT02 never, ever, worked out well. One instance had a rock getting into the servo saver area which messed up the steering, another made it pop out a suspension ball, and a fairly small jump ripped out the steering screws. These "rally" TT02s were ran on NiMH and their stock motors.
As an on-road car, again they handle badly (twitchy, bad steering, bad suspension arm design), dog bones pop out if you hit a wall or a solid object just right.
The kicker is that a stock TT-01E has none of those problems, despite being an older design. The TT01E has its own issues, but it just "works" out of the box.
Id like to point out that maybe 80% of the people who have build threads or suggest a TT02 have oodles of money in to them, but for me the best TT02 "upgrade" is to buy a different RC entirely, and put the TT02 where it performs its best, on the shelf.
Friends don't let friends drive with plastic bushings.
I've owned a ridiculously hopped up TT02B, a Type S, R, Ds, and vanilla models, all used, and all were just a bit...eh?
The S just comes with some spare "higher end" suspension arms that Tamiya had sitting around. It's an absolute kludge of spacers and bits, not that the arms matter when the stock steering is as notoriously poor as it is. If the steering wasn't a joke, it would have been a decent handler.
The basic TT02...I don't like. I like that it goes together easily, but the upper suspension arms are a bad design, and the stock steering is truly as bad as people say it is. I have cat toys that track straighter than a stock TT02.
The most ridiculous part of hopping up a TT02 (costs aside) is that the kit screws are self-tapping, but most of the hop-ups use machine screws. A key example are the oil filled shocks which come with ball connectors (btw I love popping shocks on and off and wearing out the eyelets), if you installed the friction shocks, you now have deep threaded holes where your ball connectors are meant to go.
My experience trying to "rally" a TT02 never, ever, worked out well. One instance had a rock getting into the servo saver area which messed up the steering, another made it pop out a suspension ball, and a fairly small jump ripped out the steering screws. These "rally" TT02s were ran on NiMH and their stock motors.
As an on-road car, again they handle badly (twitchy, bad steering, bad suspension arm design), dog bones pop out if you hit a wall or a solid object just right.
The kicker is that a stock TT-01E has none of those problems, despite being an older design. The TT01E has its own issues, but it just "works" out of the box.
Id like to point out that maybe 80% of the people who have build threads or suggest a TT02 have oodles of money in to them, but for me the best TT02 "upgrade" is to buy a different RC entirely, and put the TT02 where it performs its best, on the shelf.
Friends don't let friends drive with plastic bushings.
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