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WoodiE · 2-19-2007, 8:14 AM

HPI has released a new heavy duty 47 tooth spur gear used as original equipment on the HPI Savage X SS, this steel 47 Tooth Heavy Duty Spur Gear is an excellent upgrade for Savage owners who use their trucks in extreme conditions with high output engines. The heavy duty spur gear #77127 is machined from high carbon steel for precise...

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dan14 · 2-19-2007, 10:40 AM

I wont one of those for my savage x, dose any one know the price of one of these, and would it fit a savage x?

eartaker · 2-20-2007, 5:01 AM

Here is what I was told... it is better to have the plastic spur gear and to have it strip out rather than to have something go wrong and end up striping out the tranny.

dan14 · 2-20-2007, 9:59 AM

i was told its better to have a plastic one rather a metal or the new one that they have brought out, when the plastic one goes the person said if it happend with a metal or a new one, that somthing would of gone inside the engine.

robmob · 2-20-2007, 10:19 AM

If you have your slipper set correctly, you should not do any damage to the tranny when you are running steel spurs.

If you do use a hardened steel spur, you must also use a hardened steel clutch bell or the spur will chew through the clutch bell like it's butter.

FastEddy · 2-20-2007, 10:38 AM

Rob,
You stole my post word for word and beat me to the punch........

TOPDOGG71 · 2-20-2007, 10:35 PM

i have a axial .32 on my sav x i go through spur gears like butter. lol but i am to belive that that a steel spur gear on a steal bell gear messes up my radio control is there any truth to that? i was also told metal on metal anywhere messes me up. god i hope i was told wrong!!!! please help i am runnin out of plastic gears

olds97_lss · 2-20-2007, 10:43 PM

I don't know how much truth there is to that... Pretty much every 1/8 scale buggy on the market runs steel to steel bell/spurs and it's a relatively thriving section of the market...

Whatever glitching it causes isn't enough to cause any harm. I didn't notice any more or less glitching when I ran my buggy or my t-maxx with steel spurs/CB's than I do with my revo and savage with plastic spurs/steel bells.

I run an FM radio though. Maybe it affects AM systems more?

robmob · 2-20-2007, 10:43 PM

Not true. Virtually every buggy or truggy out there uses a steel spur and clutch bell.

Racer 1966 · 2-20-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TOPDOGG71

i have a axial .32 on my sav x i go through spur gears like butter. lol but i am to belive that that a steel spur gear on a steal bell gear messes up my radio control is there any truth to that? i was also told metal on metal anywhere messes me up. god i hope i was told wrong!!!! please help i am runnin out of plastic gears

Read above post by robmob and add to the first line "and if you have your mesh set correctly"

robmob · 2-20-2007, 10:44 PM

Dang. Olds pressed "post quick reply" before me.

TOPDOGG71 · 2-20-2007, 11:08 PM

ok i got bad info!!!! thats way i joined this forum please dont hold it aginst me lol

any truth to lettin the plastic spur gear bein the weekiest link because it is cheeper to fix?

DDriller · 2-22-2007, 3:15 AM

According to some, the only way you will strip through, or melt your plastic spur gear is improper mesh. Having the slipper clutch properly adjusted you should not have any damage to the drive line. However there has been cases of broken crankshafts. (Isolated incidents?) Apparently the best way to adjust mesh with the steel gears is to fold a peice of paper in half and run it through, and set them there. A single peice unfolded for the nylon spur gear.
(True?) I have ripped apart nylon gears because of improper mesh. (in a rush to get her going)

I am using the following parts On a Savage-X F4.1 with ribbed tuned pipe & 20% nitro fuel.

HPI #86806 Steel Spur Gear Set 47T
HPI #77107 HPI Racing Clutch Bell 17T

olds97_lss · 2-22-2007, 10:03 PM

With the larger engines out now that will bolt into the savage, the original single slipper disk spur gear setup allows too much slip even when cranked down. When the savage first came out, it came out with a pretty tame 21. The slipper worked fine. Now guys are jamming in 2+ HP engines and the spur slips on the slipper so much that it heats up, melts at the slipper, gets out of shape/alignment, then either strips or just melts around the slipper plate so bad that it doesn't mesh right anymore.

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DDriller RC Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 4 Trader Feedback: (0) Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Steel Spur Gears on the Savage-X F4.1 According to some, the only way you will strip through, or melt your plastic spur gear is improper mesh. Having the slipper clutch properly adjusted you should not have any damage to the drive line. However there has been cases of broken crankshafts. (Isolated incidents?) Apparently the best way to adjust mesh with the steel gears is to fold a peice of paper in half and run it through, and set them there. A single peice unfolded for the nylon spur gear. (True?) I have ripped apart nylon gears because of improper mesh. (in a rush to get her going) I am using the following parts On a Savage-X F4.1 with ribbed tuned pipe & 20% nitro fuel. HPI #86806 Steel Spur Gear Set 47T HPI #77107 HPI Racing Clutch Bell 17T
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olds97_lss Hardcore RCNT User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dekalb, IL Posts: 16,194 Experience: I am an experienced RC driver Trader Feedback: (36) Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	With the larger engines out now that will bolt into the savage, the original single slipper disk spur gear setup allows too much slip even when cranked down. When the savage first came out, it came out with a pretty tame 21. The slipper worked fine. Now guys are jamming in 2+ HP engines and the spur slips on the slipper so much that it heats up, melts at the slipper, gets out of shape/alignment, then either strips or just melts around the slipper plate so bad that it doesn't mesh right anymore. __________________ RCNT needs your support. No more rhymes... I MEAN IT!
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dan14 RCNT Champion Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: warrington Posts: 179 Trader Feedback: (0) Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	I wont one of those for my savage x, dose any one know the price of one of these, and would it fit a savage x?
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eartaker RCNT Talkaholic Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 250 Experience: I am an experienced RC driver Trader Feedback: (0) Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Here is what I was told... it is better to have the plastic spur gear and to have it strip out rather than to have something go wrong and end up striping out the tranny.
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dan14 RCNT Champion Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: warrington Posts: 179 Trader Feedback: (0) Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	i was told its better to have a plastic one rather a metal or the new one that they have brought out, when the plastic one goes the person said if it happend with a metal or a new one, that somthing would of gone inside the engine.
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robmob oOOo Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Napa, CA Posts: 13,628 Experience: I am a RC guru Trader Feedback: (53) Mentioned: 7 Post(s)	If you have your slipper set correctly, you should not do any damage to the tranny when you are running steel spurs. If you do use a hardened steel spur, you must also use a hardened steel clutch bell or the spur will chew through the clutch bell like it's butter.
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TOPDOGG71 RCNT Qualifier Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: OCALA Posts: 153 Trader Feedback: (0) Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	i have a axial .32 on my sav x i go through spur gears like butter. lol but i am to belive that that a steel spur gear on a steal bell gear messes up my radio control is there any truth to that? i was also told metal on metal anywhere messes me up. god i hope i was told wrong!!!! please help i am runnin out of plastic gears
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olds97_lss Hardcore RCNT User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dekalb, IL Posts: 16,194 Experience: I am an experienced RC driver Trader Feedback: (36) Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	I don't know how much truth there is to that... Pretty much every 1/8 scale buggy on the market runs steel to steel bell/spurs and it's a relatively thriving section of the market... Whatever glitching it causes isn't enough to cause any harm. I didn't notice any more or less glitching when I ran my buggy or my t-maxx with steel spurs/CB's than I do with my revo and savage with plastic spurs/steel bells. I run an FM radio though. Maybe it affects AM systems more? __________________ RCNT needs your support. No more rhymes... I MEAN IT!
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TOPDOGG71 RCNT Qualifier Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: OCALA Posts: 153 Trader Feedback: (0) Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	ok i got bad info!!!! thats way i joined this forum please dont hold it aginst me lol any truth to lettin the plastic spur gear bein the weekiest link because it is cheeper to fix?
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