Looking For a RTR Buggy!! Need Help!!

[Rotorxhead7]

Whats up,
Me and my boy were looking into racing buggies around the local tracks! What would be a good Race worthy RTR Buggy to purchace?
I found that Hot Bidies,Koyosho,Ofna,Jammin,RD Logics, and xray all make RTR Buggies!?!

The Hyper 7 caught my eye! but i dont now anything about buggies.

any info or help is very useful!!!!

thanks ~joe

[RatzoRC]

Just a question, Why not get a kit, so you can learn all the parts and how they work.
This will be helpfull when you need to repair the buggy.
And you will need to repair it.
Just a question.

[Rotorxhead7]

cause i dont have $1,000 to drop on a kit sir...sorry im a full time student looking for work...i would love to get a kit but i cant cut everything else i need for a kit!!

[Jeep]

Early January I purchased a Hyper 7 PBS RTR, and I couldn't be happier with it.
It is my absolute first nitro RC, and out of all of the advice I've read, the only negative remarks were about the rtr Tx and the servos. The advice about both were correct, the Tx was very basic but usable , and I stripped the stock steering servo in less than half a gallon of fuel. But, I believe it is fairly normal ,from what I've read, that most if not all RTR kits come with the more basic and cheaper electronics and servos.

Jeep

[RatzoRC]

Originally Posted by Jeep

Early January I purchased a Hyper 7 PBS RTR, and I couldn't be happier with it.
It is my absolute first nitro RC, and out of all of the advice I've read, the only negative remarks were about the rtr Tx and the servos. The advice about both were correct, the Tx was very basic but usable , and I stripped the stock steering servo in less than half a gallon of fuel. But, I believe it is fairly normal ,from what I've read, that most if not all RTR kits come with the more basic and cheaper electronics and servos.

Jeep

My thoughts exactly!
Hyper 7 is a great choice.

Sorry about my kit question. I didn't realize that you were on a budget.

[Rotorxhead7]

Originally Posted by RatzoRC

Just a question, Why not get a kit, so you can learn all the parts and how they work.
This will be helpfull when you need to repair the buggy.
And you will need to repair it.
Just a question.

you dont have to say your sorry about that!!! I should have said it in the post more clearly!!

I think me and my buddy are gonna go with Ofna!!

thanks for the help!!


can you also get more in depth on what happened to it in reguards to the servo and stripping? whats that all about??
thanks again joe!

[SpitFireV12RR]

The basic principal of stripping is wearing something out till it's usless. A servo has a motor, that turns little gears, which turns whatever its driving(A servo horn). Much like a screw driver that is too strong for the screw(Or Vice-Versa), the motor is trying too hard to the point where the wheels won't turn, but the motor is still trying to turn those cheap plastic gears, till it makes the gears that turn the servo horn on top, have no teeth, and that in turn makes it turn nothing, which pretty much screws up your whole day unless you have extras lying around.

That might sound weird, but it's pretty much what stripping is.

[Jeep]

Originally Posted by Rotorxhead7

you dont have to say your sorry about that!!! I should have said it in the post more clearly!!

I think me and my buddy are gonna go with Ofna!!

thanks for the help!!


can you also get more in depth on what happened to it in reguards to the servo and stripping? whats that all about??
thanks again joe!

Well, the stock servo was an ofna sx-0001 and, there was no impact at all to the car, in fact I didn't realize it had begun to strip out until I shut the buggy down for the day. While doing a little cleaning I slowly move the front wheels from side to side, and felt a little sudden movement and no servo travel. I dug into the servo, and one of the very thin plastic gears had lost a few teeth. I expected that, as I said per advice here on a servo upgrade. I went with a hitech 645 and it is not only stronger torque-wise, but quicker, and the actual weight difference is obvious comparing the 2 servos.
I've seen the sx-0001 on ebay for about $5.00, the hitech 645 ran about $40.00, and it seems you get what you pay for in many ways with these lil rigs.
I havn't opened the 645 servo up , but it probably has metal gears instead of plastic. And definitely has more torque than the stock servo.

Jeep

[Jeep]

Originally Posted by SpitFireV12RR

The basic principal of stripping is wearing something out till it's usless. A servo has a motor, that turns little gears, which turns whatever its driving(A servo horn). Much like a screw driver that is too strong for the screw(Or Vice-Versa), the motor is trying too hard to the point where the wheels won't turn, but the motor is still trying to turn those cheap plastic gears, till it makes the gears that turn the servo horn on top, have no teeth, and that in turn makes it turn nothing, which pretty much screws up your whole day unless you have extras lying around.

That might sound weird, but it's pretty much what stripping is.

Not to contradict you spitfire, but stripping a gear set is usually lastly caused by normal wear, or "wearing out".
In most cases "stripping" a gear-set out is due to a sudden or high torque applied to the gear set of which it wasn't designed to deal with.

The last and most improbable cause of a gear "stripping teeth" is from "wearing out"
Slack from gears and possibly a whine from gears are symptoms of "wear", but only in extreme cases do gears strip from "wear".

Jeep

[Tarant]

I have only got to run my Hyper 7 PBS a little bit, but it is a good solid buggy, i am very happy with it.

[HeartBreak]

Originally Posted by Jeep

I havn't opened the 645 servo up , but it probably has metal gears instead of plastic. And definitely has more torque than the stock servo.

Jeep

If it is a 645MG, it has metal gears (the MG in the model number denotes that). I run 'em in my buggy for steering, and haven't had a problem at all.

[Jeep]

Originally Posted by HeartBreak

If it is a 645MG, it has metal gears (the MG in the model number denotes that). I run 'em in my buggy for steering, and haven't had a problem at all.

Cool to know, thanks Heartbreak, mine is the 645MG, glad to know for sure now

Jeep

[Rotorxhead7]

What about the Jammin X1-CR? i know its a kit but i really wanna reace something worth racing!!

[AC48]

I would also suggest a kit if possible, but two RTRs that I hear are great are the Jammin X1-CR and the Sportwerks Mayhem RTR. Also I hear good thigs about the Hyper 7 but that one is already being disscussed.

The kit version of the Jammin is a great buggy, and I have heard the RTR version is a solid buggy. A lot of people like the mayhem too, it comes with a FM radio which is a plus. Check into those too.

[Rotorxhead7]

yeh i think im going to get a kit for a change so i think im gonna go with the Jammin X1-CR!!

Im really torn because my local hobby shop just got alot of land and there gonna build a track and run 3 main classes Buggy, Truggy, and MT.

I own a Stock Jato and a T-Maxx with an o.s. 18.TZ upgrade. I was planning on getting my feet wet racing the tmaxx but i really wanted to race truggy, buggy or both!!

I Def wanna try and run both Buggy and truggy but I dont have either of the 2!!!!

Now Im at the point where Im gonna get one RTR and one KIT But idk what i should get in a kit and rtr!?!?!

I was thinking i could get the
HPI Hellfire (RTR) and the Jammin X1-CR (Kit)
Or
I was thinking Got the J
Jammin X1-CRT (KIT) and the SportWerks Mayhem(RTR)

in a perfect world ide get both Jammin X1-CR and the X1-CRT but i cant afford to build 2 kits b4 race season!!

any ideas or input?