buggy swaps ends when turning

[hyper 7 pro]

hi all... i have a hyper pro and when i take corners my buggy swaps ends.

many thanks Neil...

[Plaidfish]

you mean the front turns into the back and the back turns into the front...dude don't change a thing that has got to be the cooliest thing I've ever heard anyone do w/ a buggy.....

[beason]

lol @ plaid.. i think he means he spins out to easyly... search the forum for threads on diff oils they had a thread up about this like a week ago..

[hyper 7 pro]

ive done the diffs,they are 5,7,1

[beason]

what about toe and camber, tires, buggy, power plant?? we need more info on your setup..

[hyper 7 pro]

the buggy is hyper 7 pro. set-up is camber 1.5 front and back,engine is hyper 8 port,tyres are crime fighters & diff oil is 5,7,1..

wouls my shocks make the buggy spin out all the time, if so i need a good set up on the hyper shocks please

[Plaidfish]

I was just being a smart ass......give more info like beason said and we can make your buggy turn 360 instead of 180.......another smart ass comment.....
are you running on hard surface or clay? loose dirt? does the buggy roll freely when you push it or do the breaks bind a little? did you build this or was it RTR whenyou got it...are your bearings good? diff bearings? hub Bearings?...CVDs straight......and is this only spinning to one side or both?

[mikeburgin]

Originally Posted by hyper 7 pro

the buggy is hyper 7 pro. set-up is camber 1.5 front and back,engine is hyper 8 port,tyres are crime fighters & diff oil is 5,7,1..

wouls my shocks make the buggy spin out all the time, if so i need a good set up on the hyper shocks please

Like our smart ass freind has said, need a little more info,
have you got enough droop setting on your car, would tend to run a little more camber on the rear end, up to 4 degrees, what tire are you running for what surface, normal setup for shocks on standard springs is 40 weight all round, how much rear toe are you running, if you havent got enough toe in on the rear makes the back end a litte twitchy to say the least
have you made sure that your rear dif is working properly, no binding and both wheels turn independant of each other

Mike

[niggle]

Originally Posted by hyper 7 pro

the buggy is hyper 7 pro. set-up is camber 1.5 front and back,engine is hyper 8 port,tyres are crime fighters & diff oil is 5,7,1..

wouls my shocks make the buggy spin out all the time, if so i need a good set up on the hyper shocks please

Yes, if they are binding.

Do both sides of the rear suspension move smoothly and independently of each other?

Check that the rear shock shafts are not bent, thus preventing the suspension from compressing.

Are the rear sway bar (anti-roll bar) linkages moving freely?

Try taking some pre-load off the rear springs and maybe increasing the front pre-load. You might end up with understeer instead, in which case re-balance the pre-loads and ride heights front and rear until the handling is more neutral.

Basically, stiffening the suspension at one end of the car will cause that end to slide more. You end up with oversteer or understeer characteristics depending on which end is the stiffest.

Finally, without appearing prejudiced, do you have the right driving style and controller setup? My buggies corner properly most of the time, but I can force them to swap ends when cornering if I brake hard and turn in sharply at the same time, even on fairly high-grip surfaces. Try reducing the steering and brake sensitivity on your controller.

[hyper 7 pro]

just an up-date...

what i have found is that the spining out starts when i take corners one of my rear wheels lift up...
when i take left corners the left rear wheel lifts then it spins out. vice verser

what can i do to solve it.. any help info would be great.

many thanks Neil...

[niggle]

Either the back end is too stiffly setp or binding, or you are attempting to corner too fast (you will have great difficulty in cornering sharply at flat-out speeds).

Remove the rear anti-roll bar and check that both sides of the rear suspension will move freely. If all appears OK then you could try running without the anti-roll bar to see if that helps. Going forward, a thinner anti-roll bar might work for you.

What kind of surface are you running on? The knobbly/spiked tyres that buggies typically use are no good for smooth surfaces such as concrete or tarmac. I have some Hyper 7 "=" pattern tyres on one of my buggies and it is all over the place on concrete.

[StaticSag]

I never had luck with that diff oil config.....try 3,5,1 or go to 5,7,3

If the rear is spinning out then the thicker oil in the rear diff will slow the speed at which the rear tires accelerate up to speed which in turn lessens the spin out chance.

Just my .02

[mikeburgin]

U havent wound your droop stops down to set your ride height have u ????????