Bump start engine

[PiErow]

On a bump start engine is there anything that is supposed to hold the sleeve in. On my v-spec the engine will not turn over because the piston goes to tdc ands stics. With the head on it holds the sleeve and wont spin. Without the head it will spin because the sleeve can come out a liittle. Is their supposed to be something holding the sleeve inside the engine?
Or is this just a standard fresh sleeve?

[hirevn]

do you have any extra head shims with your motor? installing 1 may ease the compression to get the motor to turn over easier.my .15 sirios in my trucks were a pain to start with the starter box,like you said not enough torque and the box motors would get smoking hot.
the head is the only thing to hold the sleeve in place.
try bringing the piston to bdc(bottom dead center)loosing the glow plug and making sure the starter box lines up perfect with the flywheel then hittting it again.if you can get the motor to keep turning and started itll get easier as it breaks in.if it keeps getting stuck maybe go to your lhs and see if they can get it started with a better starter box.there 2 styles,1 has one large motor with lots of torque (i need one of these)and the other has 2 small motors and imo are crap cause itll barly turn over my .15's and i fear the same problem when i get my motor for my kanai,not enough torque to turn it over.
hope this helps alittle.
1 more thing,it helped me anyway.if you have a fully charged car/cycle battery laying around itll have tons more cranking voltage and it may give you the extra omphhh you need to get her spinning.be carefull though cause the starter box motors will get alot warmer with the extra voltage so dont crank to long at one time.

[ZANDOR]

Welcome to the world of the best mills around LOL. This happens to most of all the top end mills..very tight pinch.just take a screw driver and or a pair of needle nose vice grips to the flywheel and turn it over intill it frees up.Put a few drops of ARO down the glow plug hole.Heat it up with a heat gun or a hair dyer.When you go to put it on your starter box make sure its at btdc. get your box spinning befor you hit the fly wheel!. OH and lossen your glow plug

[PiErow]

Starting it is almost impoissible. At bdc with the head on it only spins for a couple cycles before sticking. I will try to start it this way tommorow.(its 1:00).

[ZANDOR]

What starter box are you trying to start it on?

[1meathead]

you might want to try and unscrew the glow plug just a bit also till it turns over and starts. Also as Zandor said put some after run in it to oil it up well and HEAT like before. It will go just takes time.

[PiErow]

Ya that was my approach it just takes time... My dad is impoatient and went against what everyone said... HE CHUCKED THE CRANK IN A DRILL. arrrrrrrrrr. He said if he damaged it he would get me a new engine... I like the one i have...arrrrrr

[ZANDOR]

LOL tell him to go ahead and order a new one now... Or a rebuild p/s and con rod.. doing what he did probley streached the con rod and fucked up the p/s by scoring them if there was no lube in there.Not to mention the were on the crank bearings and crank



OH and tell him he should read some things on this site... may be become a memberLOL

[PiErow]

No i soaked the engine in wd-40 before he did it. I wanted to give the engine somewhat of a chance. This sucks big.


What are the negative effects of doing this so i can convince him he fucked it up and their is a need for a new one?

[ZANDOR]

How long did he turn it with the drill?? and how fast? eather way Its not good

[PiErow]

He would run the drill for 5 minutes pretty fast. Take the head off check re lubricate it and repeat. Idk how many times he did it i was inside. I looked at it and it looks fine. I pulled out the sleeve checked and it looked fine. I still dont like the fact that he did that. He sees me as his little oll son, i know more than he does on rc. Thanks to the forum....

[ZANDOR]

WOW I don't know what to say about that..Can't be good.Put your dad on the phone LOL. man Iam sorry my simpanthy to your well used to be new mill

[1meathead]

Originally Posted by ZANDOR

LOL tell him to go ahead and order a new one now... Or a rebuild p/s and con rod.. doing what he did probley streached the con rod and fucked up the p/s by scoring them if there was no lube in there.Not to mention the were on the crank bearings and crank



OH and tell him he should read some things on this site... may be become a memberLOL

Well he can read this quote because he did put big stress on all the parts zandor talks about! It may be fine but if it goes fast you will now know why. Oh well some of us older folk can't believe a younger person reads and knows what the are actually talking about. Hope it all works out run it till it dies and then get a new one just get it in writing now LOL

[PiErow]

My luck...
I sat out there in my drive way with my brand new prospec. I was out there fdor at least 2 hours. Push down on the box, try to get it started, over and over, for 2 hours. Got nothing. The i push down, it fires up, then dies. Im histerical and filled with joy. I go to push down again to get it running. The starter box motor spins but the wheel doesnt spin then i hear this awfull noise. My starter box died.

[1meathead]

Oh man not good! The nut on the wheel is tight right? Hope it is ok make sure the metal tap on the push rod is still hitting the 2 connection tabs. I have had a problem with that and had to bend them up a bit to make the connection. Hope it all works out just don't give up.